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Grapner/JR mx-16s 35Mhz to 2.4Ghz conversion, any thoughts?

Posted: 26 May 2016, 21:43
by Chris Wynn
If I WAS tempted to convert to 2.4, which conversion system is flavour of the month?
Cheers,
Chris.

Re: Grapner/JR mx-16s 35Mhz to 2.4Ghz conversion, any thoughts?

Posted: 26 May 2016, 23:27
by Barry_Cole
Frsky every time.....

BC

Re: Grapner/JR mx-16s 35Mhz to 2.4Ghz conversion, any thoughts?

Posted: 27 May 2016, 18:44
by B Sharp
Well you would say that Barry wouldn't you.
I converted my MC22 with a Graupner Hott module 4 years ago and have found it to be absolutely bullet proof. There were no compatibility problems either. As a further bonus, the module I purchased is switchable so that I could change back to 35mhz at the flick of a (locking) switch.
Brian. :)

Re: Grapner/JR mx-16s 35Mhz to 2.4Ghz conversion, any thoughts?

Posted: 28 May 2016, 09:15
by B Sharp
Chris, I had a quick check for you and I found the conversion kits but only for the MC19/22/24 but no mention of the MX16. Why not have a chat with Elliot at Logic RC as he may be able to help.
Brian. :)

Re: Grapner/JR mx-16s 35Mhz to 2.4Ghz conversion, any thoughts?

Posted: 30 May 2016, 20:03
by Chris Wynn
Cheers everyone, appreciate your input.
Chris

Re: Grapner/JR mx-16s 35Mhz to 2.4Ghz conversion, any thoughts?

Posted: 30 May 2016, 20:10
by Chris Wynn
[quote="B Sharp"]Chris, I had a quick check for you and I found the conversion kits but only for the MC19/22/24 but no mention of the MX16. Why not have a chat with Elliot at Logic RC as he may be able to help.
Brian. :)[/quote]

Hi Brian, thought Graupner had gone bust? I've heard some disturbing stories about their new radios, would the retro fit kits come under that heading do you think?
Cheers,
Chris.

Re: Grapner/JR mx-16s 35Mhz to 2.4Ghz conversion, any thoughts?

Posted: 31 May 2016, 00:33
by B Sharp
Chris,
Graupner/JR as it used to be no longer exists and has not done for well over a year now. It appears that after JR broke the link that Graupner continued with SJ, so the brand is now Graupner/SJ.
The main radio is the HoTT system. I started converted to using this system about 4 years ago by converting my 35mhz MC22 with a 2.4 HoTT module. As I said before, it has proved to have performed faultlessly and appears to be pretty much bullet proof. My old MC22 Tx (about 10 years old) was starting to fail mechanically and I decided to purchase a new Tx. I chose to buy a new MC20 HoTT Tx at the end of last year and have now installed this system throughout my whole fleet of aircraft (14 planes). I have had a problem with only two of my installations and following a discussion with Elliot at Logic RC I re-positioned the Rx aerials and that has solved the problem completely.
My local model shop owner now sells Graupner/SJ equipment and the owner has started using a MX24 in preference to his previous high-end Multiplex system. It is also the system of choice for many of my old friends in the competitive thermal soaring world.
I can only "tell it as I find it". The system works and I have not encountered anyone who has the system who does not like it.
Brian. :)

Re: Grapner/JR mx-16s 35Mhz to 2.4Ghz conversion, any thoughts?

Posted: 31 May 2016, 11:40
by Tony Woods
Hi All,
If anyone is interested I have a Graupner MC20 Hott system which has only been to the field once to check out the system so is as new with 2 Receivers and boxed as it was supplied.and for sale at £350. Only selling as I have stopped flying due to back problems.
Purchased from Gliders NOT foreign import.
http://www.gliders.uk.com/Graupner-MC-2 ... fo/G33020/
Collect from Chandlers Ford.
Tel 02380 906437
Mob 07973 371677

Tony

Re: Grapner/JR mx-16s 35Mhz to 2.4Ghz conversion, any thoughts?

Posted: 03 Jun 2016, 10:03
by Chris Wynn
Sorry to hear about your back Tony, hope it can get sorted and get you back flying again soon.
Chris.

Re: Grapner/JR mx-16s 35Mhz to 2.4Ghz conversion, any thoughts?

Posted: 03 Jun 2016, 22:33
by Chris Wynn
The problem seems to be that, unlike the MC series which have plug in modules, the MX series is all one piece with no plug in module. I'm sure I've read of conversions being done but it does rather seem as if some piggybank shaking would be needed if the Tx is not suitable for conversion. Decisions, decisions. What's wrong with 35Mhz anyway? Thanks for all the information which has been most helpful.
Cheers,
Chris.

Re: Grapner/JR mx-16s 35Mhz to 2.4Ghz conversion, any thoughts?

Posted: 03 Jun 2016, 23:39
by Barry_Cole
What's wrong with 35Mhz anyway?

Long aerials that get ripped off.!!!!!!!

BC

Re: Grapner/JR mx-16s 35Mhz to 2.4Ghz conversion, any thoughts?

Posted: 04 Jun 2016, 04:46
by B Sharp
Chris, in many ways 35 was fine, just like 27 before it. However 2.4 has brought security of signal like never before. I didn't think I had a problem with my MC22 until I started using telemetry and downloaded it's readings to my pc. It recorded every break in signal as an "incident ", and when viewed on a graph of the flight, the number of "incidents " was incredible. I found this worrying especially as these flights appeared to be smooth and without a problem. When I installed and started using the Hott 2.4 module the number of recorded "incidents " was reduced to a handful on each long flight. In addition the safe operating range appeared to increase enormously.
The introduction of 2.4 has produced a further hazard for the 35 operator in that everyone expects you to be operating on 2.4 and now just switch on their tx without checking. I had a few close calls while still flying on 35 where someone also flying on 35 just switched on their tx assuming that everyone else was on 2.4 Unfortunately they were transmitting on the same channel as me.
If you do decide to change and if you do decide to stay with Graupner then Tonys offer on his MC20 represents very good value.
Brian.

Re: Grapner/JR mx-16s 35Mhz to 2.4Ghz conversion, any thoughts?

Posted: 04 Jun 2016, 09:38
by Tony Woods
Brian,
Thanks for your support of my MC20 sale and yes it is good value because it has only been to the field once.If I fly anything in the future it will only be Foamies and as I also have an MZ24 Hott which is lighter and more compact I shall use that.

Regards,

Tony

Re: Grapner/JR mx-16s 35Mhz to 2.4Ghz conversion, any thoughts?

Posted: 06 Jun 2016, 12:08
by Chris Wynn
Appreciate your thoughts and comments Gents. The Mc20 is thought provoking,
Chris.

Re: Grapner/JR mx-16s 35Mhz to 2.4Ghz conversion, any thoughts?

Posted: 06 Jun 2016, 15:30
by Barry_Cole
Brand new Taranis half the price. Receivers smaller and much better priced.

:D :D :D :D

BC

Re: Grapner/JR mx-16s 35Mhz to 2.4Ghz conversion, any thoughts?

Posted: 07 Jun 2016, 08:16
by B Sharp
It's a trust thing Barry!
Brian. :D :D :D :D

Re: Grapner/JR mx-16s 35Mhz to 2.4Ghz conversion, any thoughts?

Posted: 07 Jun 2016, 16:38
by Tony Woods
Chris,
Take no notice of Barry and you buy it, That's my unbiased opinion. ;)

Regards,

Tony

Re: Grapner/JR mx-16s 35Mhz to 2.4Ghz conversion, any thoughts?

Posted: 07 Jun 2016, 16:51
by Barry_Cole
Tony Woods wrote:Chris,
Take no notice of Barry and you buy it, That's my unbiased opinion. ;)

Regards,

Tony
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

BC

Re: Grapner/JR mx-16s 35Mhz to 2.4Ghz conversion, any thoughts?

Posted: 16 Jun 2016, 19:00
by Chris Wynn
Has anyone had any experience or knowledge of retro fitting FrSky DHT units to tx's? If it can be done reliably to my Mx16s I would be delighted as I really like the way it programs. I recon I would get the best of both worlds though I have heard my friends words of widom .
Chris.

Re: Grapner/JR mx-16s 35Mhz to 2.4Ghz conversion, any thoughts?

Posted: 10 Jul 2016, 20:58
by Chris Wynn
:D Thanks. The evidence is stacking up, I just like my mx16's programming though. I guess everything changes : )
Chris.

Re: Grapner/JR mx-16s 35Mhz to 2.4Ghz conversion, any thoughts?

Posted: 12 Jul 2016, 20:40
by Bernie
Hi Chris

Just thought I would throw this in the thought process, the Jeti TU module will fit the MX16s rock solid signal, not the cheapest but its not designed to be :roll:

Not ever fitted one in the MX16s, but there is a photo on the jeti site which can be seen here http://www.jetimodel.com/en/Tx-Module-Installation/

more info can be found here on prices http://www.esoaringgadgets.co.uk/index. ... Path=46_83

If you want any further details then just ask

Bernie :twisted:

Re: Grapner/JR mx-16s 35Mhz to 2.4Ghz conversion, any thoughts?

Posted: 30 Aug 2016, 21:43
by Chris Wynn
Thanks for the info Bernie. I'd already gone down the FrSky route before I spotted your reply. All seems well, I guess time will tell, it's good to know there are other options should I choose to go down that road.
Chris.