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Minimoa MO2a -Chris Williams plan and Cliff Evans kit

Posted: 05 Aug 2018, 08:49
by mick a
just started the new project today
got the kit from cliff evens -excellent cutting , all slots together perfect
mick
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Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 06 Aug 2018, 13:51
by Andrew Ray
Oo nice, I have one of these laser cut kits too. Other things keep getting in the way though.

Looking forward to seeing this progress.

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 06 Aug 2018, 14:21
by Martin G
I have a cnc kit that I cut myself. Looking forward to your build.

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 11 Aug 2018, 19:04
by mick a
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a couple of more bits done -pleased with 3 eves work

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit**

Posted: 12 Aug 2018, 19:13
by mick a
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a couple more bits done today
finished rudder
and the fuse came out straight 👍👍 always a result

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 12 Aug 2018, 19:37
by chris williams
Mick, it won't stay straight until you put the diagonals in... 8-)

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 13 Aug 2018, 00:02
by mick a
thanks chris
read all your notes , just glad it didn’t come out like a banana , as have done before ...lol

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 25 Aug 2018, 21:10
by mick a
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a couple more bits done today , mainly fitting the motor to the front

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 01 Sep 2018, 18:11
by mick a
bit more done today, fit the motor and made the nose
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Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 05 Oct 2018, 18:41
by mick a
a bit more done on the fuse , getting there
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Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 05 Oct 2018, 18:47
by mick a
and a couple of the inner wing
i seem to have scr***d it up a bit but not sure where
all square on front spars , but root rib seems to be in air about 6 mm , which will make a twist in wing
if i push trailing edge down it the comes away from spars or twists
has any one an ideas ?
here are pics ( excuse the claret )
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Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 05 Oct 2018, 20:18
by chris williams
Mick, run a straight edge along the top spar...it looks from the pic that it bends forwards slightly at the root, which would explain the anomaly.
Also, it's essential that the brass box in the wing is enclosed on both sides of the spars with ply?

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 05 Oct 2018, 20:30
by mick a
thanks chris
have got ply both sides , will try the straight rule - hopefully that will bring trailing edge level
i presume it should all be dead straight across the top and bottom of ribs ?

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 05 Oct 2018, 21:31
by chris williams
I'm talking straight as viewed from above? Assuming this is the first wing, the next step would be to dry fit the ribs and spars for the second wing and see if the same thing happens? Annoyingly, although I took over a hundred pics of the build, I don't have one of that particular scenario :evil:

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 06 Oct 2018, 14:23
by mick a
have put ruler along spars on both wings
and both root ribs still in air about 6mm , now really confused as it doesn’t seem to want to go straight
any ideas what to do now ?
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Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 06 Oct 2018, 14:35
by mick a
also this rib seems very short ?
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Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 06 Oct 2018, 14:37
by mick a
hahah
yea i know what you mean cliff
think going to put away as getting a bit frustrated , can’t seem to work out everything , (obviously not ) but just can’t see
and it’s same on both wings

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 06 Oct 2018, 16:14
by RobbieB
Mick,

Is the spar vertical (or at least, the same angle) to the building board all the way to the root rib?

Also, place your straight edge vertically along the top of the ribs, parallel to the trailing edge to see if there is any rise in that rib.

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 06 Oct 2018, 17:19
by mick a
hi robbie
have checked all the angles , all square top and bottom spar
all ribs seem to fit and all at same hight at trailing edge, the root rib is still up in air ???
if i pin the spar down and put trailing edge of root rib down it twists the spars out of shape
can’t work it out , so just going to leave it alone , if i carry on think i will throw it !!!!
will just have to start again , so annoying aaaagh - but ey hopefully get there, just spent
4 hrs trying to sort it with no luck

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 06 Oct 2018, 17:23
by chris williams
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OK, FBI investigation under way... First of all, R1c is too short: my mistake. Amended PDF attached. Now look at the pic of the root rib. This is actually all the root ribs superimposed on each other. You can see that the spar slots are all identical (Good old Compufoil). So, I've printed out part of the plan and cut some more ribs and...presto a similar result. Putting two of the ribs side by side on the spars shows that they are at a different angle. To quote Douglas Adams: 'this is, of course, impossible'. Have to prepare for MW now, so further investigations will have to wait until Monday

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 06 Oct 2018, 17:39
by mick a
thanks chris
thought i was going nuts !!
will await the out come , thought was strange as rest of it all fits perfect

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 08 Oct 2018, 21:12
by chris williams
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Having seen that two other ribs are slightly misaligned, the cause of the problem is obvious: despite my careful cutting out of the slots, the slight discrepancies involved in the manual creation of the ribs are the culprit. This is exacerbated by the depth of the spars, which are so specified as to make the glueing area at the gull join sufficient for the job. The solution should be relatively simple: ease out the slots for the upper spar to allow the ribs to take up their proper position. The inner panel ribs will be aligned by the two TE segments and the flap spar; the outer panel ribs will be aligned by the aileron spar. (I have always done this without fiddling with the slots: presumably the spruce is flexible enough to take up any of the differences)
In the case of the MO2a, when the wing is locked into shape with the addition of the top sheeting, the two short lengths of TE either side of the flap are clamped to a straight edge whilst the glue dries...

The foregoing must be true, I have a hangar full of wings that say so!

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 09 Oct 2018, 00:58
by mick a
thanks chris
just to get it correct, i should make the slots in the root ribs 1b wider so they fit onto the short
trailing edge at root , and the same for the 1c ribs ?
the ribs you show in pics are for the outer wing , not built that as yet
when i pin the spar on the plan the back of all r1 ribs are off the plan, which seems correct as the shape of ribs dictates this , if i cut the slots in 1b and 1c to fit to the short trailing edge , i will then have a gap at the top spar ( i can always fill this )
have tried again and still twists
just going to glue all up and try to get twists out later as just going round in circles
just looks like lots of washout on inner wing

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 09 Oct 2018, 07:59
by chris williams
Wing twist at this stage is irrelevant. It's not until the wing is on the jig supports and the top sheeting added that it all gets locked in place. As it stands at the moment you can twist the wing in any direction you like!

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 09 Oct 2018, 12:01
by mick a
that’s one way of putting it Cliff
it will get there , just can’t seem to get it to work at the moment , so think will just leave it for a while - hope the balsa gods will sort it
...

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 09 Oct 2018, 12:25
by mick a
thanks Chris
will do that , the spar won’t twist at the root
rib , as the joiner box is there and it’s solid
just concerned about lack of contact from the first 3 ribs at the root as wanted this to be strong and it seems i have to keep adding little bits in , it just doesn’t seem strong and it looks like i’m just bodging it up as i go along
but keep going

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 09 Oct 2018, 13:58
by Tom Pack
mick a wrote: ↑09 Oct 2018, 12:25 thanks Chris
will do that , the spar won’t twist at the root
rib , as the joiner box is there and it’s solid
just concerned about lack of contact from the first 3 ribs at the root as wanted this to be strong and it seems i have to keep adding little bits in , it just doesn’t seem strong and it looks like i’m just bodging it up as i go along
but keep going
Do 1 of 2 things........1 cut a whole new rib with the correct spar slots.....or 2 cut a partial rib and double up the area where the gaps are from making the existing rib “fit”.

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 09 Oct 2018, 14:58
by mick a
yea i think that’s what i will do
although already cut 4 new ones ,
just want to be sure all in correct place
with the root ribs etc as once all glued in
that’s it ,so just trying to figure out a
point to measure everything straight from
as every time so far (4 attempts ) it’s been wrong eithe trailing edge spar to high / too low
etc etc
hopefully will do

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 18 Oct 2018, 20:05
by mick a
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ok here goes
have tried 5th attempt at wing , still twisted , not sure what to do now ,as tried everything i can think of , i know a slight twist is ok
but i have a difference of 20 mm from root to outer rib , just on inner wing , if i glue (which i have tried ) , when twist back as though on jig it pulls the ribs or even break some
any advice would be great as just can’t get it
and can’t get on with anything else until done inner wings

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 18 Oct 2018, 22:12
by mick a
think i have found the problem , just need a solution
as you can see from photos , the trailing edge of ribs will not fit on the trailing edge
if i put ribs to trailing edge as should be it sets a twist like a dogs hind leg
these pics are with the spars straight
any ideas would be a great help
main problem is that i have to use inner wings to set incedence with wing box
so just concerned if wings twisted -incedence will be wrong
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Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 19 Oct 2018, 00:37
by chris williams
Mick, as you will have seen from my previous post, the ribs and the slots as drawn are all identical, so that shouldn't be happening. The solution is simple: ease out the rear of the top spar slots on the ribs on which the TE is too high. This should allow them to rotate up slightly. Use the straight TE to line the ribs up. They should line up on the LE now as well

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 19 Oct 2018, 09:04
by mick a
thanks chris
will try that , although have glued all ribs to spars , so will have to cut rib at top as you said and add strengthener in
i presume all ribs should be level across top and bottom ?
will get there ?
on sitting incedence , should i add a small piece of leading edge ?
thanks again for all your help , it’s a brilliant forum
mick

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 19 Oct 2018, 09:34
by chris williams
Assuming the ribs are more or less identical, setting up the TE should be sufficient. When hand cutting, there are often variations at the LE: these are usually sanded out when trimming up the LE with a sanding block

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 20 Oct 2018, 18:11
by mick a
thanks chris
going to give it one last go tonight, will slice the top of rib behind spar and the put new sliver in-between rib and spar
fingers crossed 👍

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 20 Oct 2018, 19:58
by chris williams
Don't fuss packing out the ribs, Mick, it shouldn't be necessary

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 20 Oct 2018, 22:36
by mick a
finally 😄
got it square , or as close to before sheeting , just sliced the top of rib and lined up with trailing edge - as you said chris - just have a gap from top section of ribs to top spar, easy fix

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Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 26 Oct 2018, 19:04
by mick a
a bit more done
all good so far
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Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 05 Nov 2018, 16:12
by chris williams
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A quick note for when you get to the outer wing panel, Mick... I have noticed that ribs have been plotted in Compufoil in such a way that the the aileron spar is not, as you might think, a straight taper, but is parallel out to rib 13, and tapers from there.
Also, a typo...J5 fits rib 19, not rib 20

(I've only noticed these things because my current Minimoa wings are based on the MO2a's, with the necessary mods)

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 08 Nov 2018, 14:43
by mick a
thanks Chris
will make a note of that
does the main spar still taper from the wing join (12mm-6mm) or does that start from 13 as well ?
thanks again
mick

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 08 Nov 2018, 14:57
by chris williams
The main spars taper from the gull join, Mick...



cw

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 11 Nov 2018, 10:13
by mick a
a bit more done today
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Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 07 Dec 2018, 20:06
by mick a
bit more done today
starting on the canopy , but seem to have gone wrong again !!!
the formers don’t seem to fit at all , 20mm short in width , has anyone got any ideas or methods how to get an even curve
to match front former
have tried to copy front and cut down - didn’t work
any ideas greatly appreciated
thanks mick
pics might help explain
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Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 08 Dec 2018, 00:39
by chris williams
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Here are the all the frames for the canopies, Mick...check your parts against them?

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 08 Dec 2018, 07:14
by mick a
thanks Chris
will try that ,

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 10 Dec 2018, 18:53
by mick a
Does anyone want a minimoa to finish off
have give up with it , just to difficult, seem to be having difficulty in every step
tailplane, rudder , inner wings and fuse all done
just canopy and outer wings to be finished

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 10 Dec 2018, 21:45
by chris williams
It has to be said Mick, the MO2a canopies are the most complicated canopies I've ever had to make (and then you have to paint them)...

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 10 Dec 2018, 22:34
by mick a
hi Chris
i know what you mean, managed the front section and rear section - just a cannot get the middle to fit at all, either to small too big or wrong curve
it’s a lovely plane but just loosing the will to finish it ....
hopefully will get the enthusiasm back soon, as love to build but seem to be doing everything 3/4 times
OH the joys of modelling ..... lol

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 11 Dec 2018, 00:11
by chris williams
Can you post a pic of the part that doesn't fit next to the place it's supposed to fit?

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 20 Dec 2018, 10:43
by mick a
hi Chris
here are the pics you asked for :
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have nearly fished front cockpit no prob
any ideas would be great
thanks
mick

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 20 Dec 2018, 15:32
by chris williams
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OK Mick...first of all, remember that there's a 3mm sq spruce rail that sits on top of the wing fairing, rebated 1mm to allow for the glazing.

Here's a screen shot with attached PDF of F7 & F7a, taken straight from the plan. Note the distance shown at the base of F7a: check to see if this matches up with your part? If it does, then for some reason the fuselage may be wider at that point that it should be?

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 20 Dec 2018, 16:51
by mick a
hi Chris
thanks for the pdf
the width of mine is 145mm , i have put the 3mm sq for the frame etc
the width of the top part of former on the plan and former itself is 125 mm
the last lot you sent i enlarged on photocopier to have correct width 145mm
but when i offered up it was the wrong curve
i think i will make one up in situ with .8 mm ply strips to get correct curve
it’s a strange one , it’s a challenge but will get there

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 20 Dec 2018, 19:38
by chris williams
Mick, what's the width of the fuselage at F7?


cw

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 20 Dec 2018, 19:49
by mick a
hi Chris
it’s 145mm at f7

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 20 Dec 2018, 22:36
by chris williams
OK, the fog lifts a little...F6a is actually missing from the plan, so I don't know what the part you have labelled F6a actually is. Here is a PDF of F6a which I eventually found on my PC!

Cliff, can you add it to the plan file?

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 21 Dec 2018, 10:22
by mick a
thanks Chris
sorry to cause you headaches
that looks a lot better

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 21 Dec 2018, 12:52
by chris williams
No worries, Mick, best to get it sorted ;)

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 29 Dec 2018, 09:15
by mick a
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found this on the hungarian site, the club i belong to over there
does this look like the minimoa 2a to anyone else ?

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 29 Dec 2018, 09:28
by VinceC
it is an Hungarian M-22 registration HA-4036. The dark bar on the bottom of the rudder gave it away as being Hungarian

Re: minimoa mo2a -chris williams plan and cliff evans kit

Posted: 29 Dec 2018, 09:30
by VinceC
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Re: Minimoa MO2a -Chris Williams plan and Cliff Evans kit

Posted: 31 Dec 2018, 20:06
by mick a
wow thanks vince

Re: Minimoa MO2a -Chris Williams plan and Cliff Evans kit

Posted: 01 Jan 2019, 10:37
by mick a
found these , also from hungary , same planes i think
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Re: Minimoa MO2a -Chris Williams plan and Cliff Evans kit

Posted: 01 Jan 2019, 23:34
by Barry_Cole
It's the drink.......

8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

BC

Re: Minimoa MO2a -Chris Williams plan and Cliff Evans kit

Posted: 01 Jan 2019, 23:46
by mick a
true , but getting back to the build now, so will be more build pics from now

Re: Minimoa MO2a -Chris Williams plan and Cliff Evans kit

Posted: 10 Mar 2019, 18:25
by mick a
got back into the build today for a bit
got the front canopy done, seems to have gone together ok
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Re: Minimoa MO2a -Chris Williams plan and Cliff Evans kit

Posted: 22 Mar 2019, 19:01
by Bubbles
You might have seen my post in Glider Guiders about Cof G for an elderly Minimoa.
Having done the Math for Cof G mine comes out at approximately 48% of root cord.
As a matter of interest what is your Cof G.
Many thanks

Re: Minimoa MO2a -Chris Williams plan and Cliff Evans kit

Posted: 11 May 2019, 10:41
by mick a
getting back into the build again now, so now just to keep going
it’s a challenging one but really enjoyable, finished the canopy frame now, just to glaze
can’t seem to get it to fit with hinges so might just use magnets and catch
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Re: Minimoa MO2a -Chris Williams plan and Cliff Evans kit

Posted: 07 Sep 2019, 12:14
by mick a
trying to get back into this build, have had a lot of encouragement, (thanks barry) .
still a few bits that confuse me, so will be asking lots of qs
thanks in advance

Re: Minimoa MO2a -Chris Williams plan and Cliff Evans kit

Posted: 21 Sep 2019, 08:06
by Hansjörg Rothfuß
Hello Mick, hello Cris,

i am Hansjörg form Germany and registered to Scale Soaring UK today after I have discovered your report from the Mo2a.
Since almost 2 years i am building the Mo2a with the nice Plan from Chris but with several modifications.

If you want , you can have a look at my report in the german forum:
http://www.rc-network.de/forum/showthre ... Baubericht

My Mo2a at the moment:
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Regards Hansjörg

Re: Minimoa MO2a -Chris Williams plan and Cliff Evans kit

Posted: 21 Sep 2019, 08:51
by VinceC
What an excellent model and thanks for the detailed build thread

Re: Minimoa MO2a -Chris Williams plan and Cliff Evans kit

Posted: 21 Sep 2019, 10:12
by Barry_Cole
CARBON?????

Chris will have a fit,,,,,

:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

BC

Re: Minimoa MO2a -Chris Williams plan and Cliff Evans kit

Posted: 21 Sep 2019, 10:36
by Hansjörg Rothfuß
Yes, the planking and part of the spar is carbon.

I hope, that Chris will survive the fit.... ;)

Re: Minimoa MO2a -Chris Williams plan and Cliff Evans kit

Posted: 21 Sep 2019, 12:57
by mick a
nice build
i’d better get into gear, and get on with mine

Re: Minimoa MO2a -Chris Williams plan and Cliff Evans kit

Posted: 22 Sep 2019, 09:51
by chris williams
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Nothing wrong with carbon, we are, after all, carbon-based lifeforms. ;) ;)

Re: Minimoa MO2a -Chris Williams plan and Cliff Evans kit

Posted: 22 Sep 2019, 10:46
by Hansjörg Rothfuß
@chris:
your answer and the photo of the Mo2a - really perfect !

Re: Minimoa MO2a -Chris Williams plan and Cliff Evans kit

Posted: 31 Aug 2020, 18:06
by Hansjörg Rothfuß
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Hello,
the first flight of my Mo2a in January failed.
The rubber had not come off during startup :-((
The fuselage was badly damaged.
But after the repair iÂŽve done several nice flights with the Mo2a
during this summer.

https://vimeo.com/437181526

The paint is not yet finished. It will done in autumn.
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Hansjörg

Re: Minimoa MO2a -Chris Williams plan and Cliff Evans kit

Posted: 31 Aug 2020, 18:10
by VinceC
A beautiful sight to see

Re: Minimoa MO2a -Chris Williams plan and Cliff Evans kit

Posted: 01 Sep 2020, 00:36
by chris williams
Congratulations Hansjörg... ;)

Re: Minimoa MO2a -Chris Williams plan and Cliff Evans kit

Posted: 01 Sep 2020, 07:36
by Hansjörg Rothfuß
thanks....

Re: Minimoa MO2a -Chris Williams plan and Cliff Evans kit

Posted: 12 Nov 2020, 17:28
by smuelle2000
As I'm looking for a new building project for me and my dad, I found this nice Minimoa kit at Sarik hobbies and this helpful build thread. I was wondering if someone could tell me what kind of airfoil is used for this Minimoa? What other wood parts are needed, which are not provided in the kit from Sarik? Are there any major differences between the larger kit (1:3.5) and the smaller kit (1:4), except for the dimensions?
Thank you!
Steffen

Re: Minimoa MO2a -Chris Williams plan and Cliff Evans kit

Posted: 13 Nov 2020, 00:44
by chris williams
The wings sections are HQ35/14 root, 35/12 tip... I have all the build pics on file if you need them.

There's a 1/4 scale version...?

Re: Minimoa MO2a -Chris Williams plan and Cliff Evans kit

Posted: 13 Nov 2020, 02:00
by smuelle2000
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Chris, thank you for the quick answer - good news, we're hoping for HQ airfoils since we have good experience with another scale plane using HQ. And thank you for offering build pics, we definitely keep your offer in mind once we start building.

At the Sarik Hobbies online store, they offer a 167" and a 191" wingspan version of the Minimoa, and I was wondering if the smaller kit is just a scale down version or if there are any changes in e.g. airfoil or building structure. I'll contact them directly.
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Re: Minimoa MO2a -Chris Williams plan and Cliff Evans kit

Posted: 13 Nov 2020, 07:41
by chris williams
Ah, I thought you were talking about the 2-seater version of the Minimoa. The plan you have shown was made back in the last century, although many versions have flown successfully. I have recently drawn a new plan at 1/4 scale with much simpler, lighter wings...


Re: Minimoa MO2a -Chris Williams plan and Cliff Evans kit

Posted: 15 Nov 2020, 01:52
by smuelle2000
Ok, now I see the difference ... I thought the kit from Sarik is the one from this build here. Both kits are looking good ... hard decision. Thank you for the information.

Re: Minimoa MO2a -Chris Williams plan and Cliff Evans kit

Posted: 15 Nov 2020, 09:30
by chris williams
I will shortly start a build log for the newest Minimoa and will donate the plan to the forum... ;)

Re: Minimoa MO2a -Chris Williams plan and Cliff Evans kit**

Posted: 15 Nov 2020, 10:26
by Cliff Evans
Thanks Chris.