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1/4 Scale Salto**
- Cliff Evans
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Re: 1/4 Scale Salto
This is GlidresUK!
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- mjcp
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Re: 1/4 Scale Salto
I started my build with the tail plane, the idea being I can get my eye in and if I lunch it, a recut would be less of a bent to the wallet than a set of wing ribs and skin!
Stb ruddervator 1st off the plan, followed by the Port one. Eye mostly in.
Bit of doubling ready for the hinges - This was my 1st moment of insecurity: allowing for the skin, the LE and TE were still higher than where the skin would end up. Eventually I worked up the courage to assume it would need to be sanded back to profile, hence the doublers look way taller than needed in the pic.
Skinning was a non event, but the next step had its own set of nerves. The TE is a combination of stock TE and additional stock to fill in a narrow wedge as the chord increases towards the fuse / root. In the end, some odd bin stock was glued and with the aid of some packing tape (to protect the TE that didn't yet need adjustment) and a (Messrs. Heath, Robinson patented) flat sanding sheet did the job.
A quick trace of the plan, cut to a template and then attacked with the bandsaw resulted in the desired plan form control surface. This was marked and then fettled with a block plane borrowed from the other side of the workshop to get the root to tip taper correct, with suitable graduation along the profile.
Meanwhile the balance tabs were formed from two cross grain thicker balsa sheet offcuts. (Looks like the LE had seen some profile work by this point too!) The tabs were rebated to match the bevelled profile of the TE and to offer a larger surface area for the joint.
Next up, the balance tabs* were blended to the control surface / TE profile in the same packing tape masked / sanded way. Then the LE / body of the tab was profiled to match its ruddervator. (Here's a before and after)
1st side done, boundary between the ruddervator and the balance tab was faced with 0.4mm ply
And its pair.
Hand aligned, I'm happy with the two faces, they will be straight and close by the time the hinges get involved.
A pair of ruddervators.
The servo hatches have also been cut on the rear. Servos will be HiTech HS-125MGs all round unless anyone else has any thoughts?
*Balance tabs - not sure what the name of the bit ahead of the hinge is called on a "horn balanced" surface (I've never heard it called a horn!) and balance tabs tend to be on the TE...
n.b. happy to shift to a sep. thread to avoid hijack if the powers that be prefer?
Marc.
Stb ruddervator 1st off the plan, followed by the Port one. Eye mostly in.
Bit of doubling ready for the hinges - This was my 1st moment of insecurity: allowing for the skin, the LE and TE were still higher than where the skin would end up. Eventually I worked up the courage to assume it would need to be sanded back to profile, hence the doublers look way taller than needed in the pic.
Skinning was a non event, but the next step had its own set of nerves. The TE is a combination of stock TE and additional stock to fill in a narrow wedge as the chord increases towards the fuse / root. In the end, some odd bin stock was glued and with the aid of some packing tape (to protect the TE that didn't yet need adjustment) and a (Messrs. Heath, Robinson patented) flat sanding sheet did the job.
A quick trace of the plan, cut to a template and then attacked with the bandsaw resulted in the desired plan form control surface. This was marked and then fettled with a block plane borrowed from the other side of the workshop to get the root to tip taper correct, with suitable graduation along the profile.
Meanwhile the balance tabs were formed from two cross grain thicker balsa sheet offcuts. (Looks like the LE had seen some profile work by this point too!) The tabs were rebated to match the bevelled profile of the TE and to offer a larger surface area for the joint.
Next up, the balance tabs* were blended to the control surface / TE profile in the same packing tape masked / sanded way. Then the LE / body of the tab was profiled to match its ruddervator. (Here's a before and after)
1st side done, boundary between the ruddervator and the balance tab was faced with 0.4mm ply
And its pair.
Hand aligned, I'm happy with the two faces, they will be straight and close by the time the hinges get involved.
A pair of ruddervators.
The servo hatches have also been cut on the rear. Servos will be HiTech HS-125MGs all round unless anyone else has any thoughts?
*Balance tabs - not sure what the name of the bit ahead of the hinge is called on a "horn balanced" surface (I've never heard it called a horn!) and balance tabs tend to be on the TE...
n.b. happy to shift to a sep. thread to avoid hijack if the powers that be prefer?
Marc.
m̶j̶c̶p̶ Marc
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Some (now) pristine models that are un-flown for a year.
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Some (now) pristine models that are un-flown for a year.
- Cliff Evans
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Re: 1/4 Scale Salto
Looks good Marc.
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- Cliff Evans
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Re: 1/4 Scale Salto
The new Pat Teakle Salto flew today for the first time. New wing section HQW 2.5/12. Flew faultlessly off of the tow, just needed to calm the surfaces down a bit but yes, a great success.
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Re: 1/4 Scale Salto
Hi Marc
Great to hear that the Salto has flown. Love the training edge brakes.
Mike
Great to hear that the Salto has flown. Love the training edge brakes.
Mike
- Cliff Evans
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Re: 1/4 Scale Salto
Its Cliff, not Marc!
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Re: 1/4 Scale Salto
I cliff well done with the maiden .just need to fly mine. Will be off the slope.
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- Location: nr salisbury
Re: 1/4 Scale Salto**
i could not resist purchasing a short kit and now starting the build following Peters journey. the one thing i am not sure about is the scale flaps which i have never built before. its a friday and im struggling to see the best way to build them; at the moment i think its - construct wing; bevel and add the doubler(?) add top ply skin, mark outline of flaps; add balsa between ribs; add tape or similar to act as release, add bottom ply skin partial only. then cut and release.
- Cliff Evans
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Re: 1/4 Scale Salto**
Sounds like a plan! How long is a piece of string? Everyone will do it in their own chosen way.andynrose315 wrote: ↑25 Nov 2022, 20:00 i could not resist purchasing a short kit and now starting the build following Peters journey. the one thing i am not sure about is the scale flaps which i have never built before. its a friday and im struggling to see the best way to build them; at the moment i think its - construct wing; bevel and add the doubler(?) add top ply skin, mark outline of flaps; add balsa between ribs; add tape or similar to act as release, add bottom ply skin partial only. then cut and release.
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Re: 1/4 Scale Salto**
afternoon - i have one wing panel on the way, and just looking at what is recommended for the number of ribs to remove for the wing joiner. think the plan suggests R1 to R3 inclusive removed with a ply doubler on R4.