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5th scale HW-4 Flamingo... (even I couldn't squeeze it in before New Year's Eve!)

Age thing, definitely... (and I'm not the only one getting older!)

small CAN be beautiful!!!

jack wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 18:52 small CAN be beautiful!!!

Geoff Crew comes to mind

Steady on lads...........on the other hand, I'm tall for a dwarf
Happy xmas one and all

Geoff

2019??!! I hereby officially claim the prize for the last maiden of 2018 - my 1/4 scale Charlesworth Grunau Baby flown today at St Agnes. Huge thanks to Chris Imrie and James Clark for their help and photos. Model has actually been finished for weeks but have been waiting for the right time/weather/family/work window - you will know the feeling. Video maybe coming. Happy Christmas one and all!

Ha! Always happy to pose a challenge! If you have Facebook, this might (with luck) be the link to the video.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/228500440904856/

And besides...the Wookie boasted he was going finish his Wolf by Christmas (Yes, this Christmas!)

chris williams wrote: ↑22 Dec 2018, 00:32 And besides...the Wookie boasted he was going finish his Wolf by Christmas (Yes, this Christmas!)

Best laugh all day . . . thanks.
Phillip C

(Now back to the workshop to finish my project . . . . only started it in 2009 . . good things take time )

Putting together a Horizon Hobbies 6.4 meter ASH-31 over the next couple of months!

chris williams wrote: ↑22 Dec 2018, 00:32 And besides...the Wookie boasted he was going finish his Wolf by Christmas (Yes, this Christmas!)

Easter then. It was all going so well.


BC

Philkiteflyer wrote: ↑22 Dec 2018, 02:52

chris williams wrote: ↑22 Dec 2018, 00:32 And besides...the Wookie boasted he was going finish his Wolf by Christmas (Yes, this Christmas!)

Best laugh all day . . . thanks.
Phillip C

(Now back to the workshop to finish my project . . . . only started it in 2009 . . good things take time )

As long as you had a laugh, it was all worth it... 2009????, even I am not that slow.

As long as you had a laugh, it was all worth it... 2009????, even I am not that slow.

So it seems.

My excuse is I am easily distracted . . . I am a GREAT starter . . . finishing is more difficult.

Have a good'un, and stay warm.

Phillip C
(We have Summer Xmas's.)

Nice one Nigel. It has given me the spur to get going with my Spalinger. (Workshop floor is now levelled and painted and I took delivery of the carbon-fibre tub for my sportscar last week, so, no more excuses for not getting the modelling stuff down from the loft !)
Compliments of the season to all,
Dave
ps still got one more stage to do for the x-country endorsement. The paperwork for the MotorFalke's Annual is taking an age

Well, I am building a Keil Kraft Elmira. OK, I know its not scale, but it has a lot of personal significance for me. Like lots of people I started learning on gliders such a the trusty Veron Impala. The guy who taught me to fly was building an Elmira as per the the original kit. When he flew it, the sight of it soaring was new experience for me as it "looked" scale. I was hooked and from that time on my interest in kippers waned and I looked for scale gliders to build. (not that there were many back then)
So then, 50 years later I come accross Replikit and decide on a trip of pure nostalgia. However, with several models on the board needing completion, I decided this winter would be the appropriate time to build my Elmira.
So with that plan set in mind I came accross just such a kit on the BMFA, at a better price than the new kit, so I quickly made the purchase.
After a week of happy balsa bashing I have a nice smooth fuselage and some tail feathers. So, once the Christmas festivities are over the wing will be started. I have decided on two modificatons ( well quite a few actually). The main one is to give her ailerons. I remember quite well that when a turn was require you needed to send a telegram. It was numb on the rudder. And it had no airbarakes, so landing was a hastle. Mine will have both.
I have also dispensed with with the banded on wing and will use a peg at the front with a nylon bolt at the back of the wing. And I am making the talplane and fin removable with a single bolt at the back. This is just to make storage and transport easier and safer.
My hope is to take my old friend Eric one day next summer and give hime a go on the sticks. He doesn't fly any more because he is getting frail, but it will be a nice thing to do whilst he is still around.
Merry Christmas.
John

Plan ordered for the Mike Trew Breguet Fauvette and will shortly be ordering the laser cut kit from Ciff for Chris's Scheibe A-Spatz.

Whether either will be finished this year is another matter .......

Goliardia Construction Help

Message sent - On one of my photos it appears at least the rudder cables come out of the fuselage between the booms

The Flamingo proceeds apace...

Keep it away from the Duster.....



BC

The Flamingo is coming along quite nicely...

Looks like it peed itself in the process. Looks like a nice additional model, Chris

To

Painting soon then???



BC

My Greenley came to a sticky end
Another one is on the way.

The Flamingo is almost ready for covering and painting... there are several deviations from scale: over to the Scale Police

Who needs Scale Police??? It looks nothing like a Flamingo.....

C'mon Barry, shape up...that's an HW5 Flamingo, mine's an HW4 (Rookie mistake)

chris williams wrote: ↑09 Feb 2019, 16:24 C'mon Barry, shape up...that's an HW5 Flamingo, mine's an HW4 (Rookie mistake)

Trust you to build the out of date one.....



BC

Successful 5th scale Flamingo maiden yesterday...note CAP1763-compliant rudder!

Lovely, both the weather and the model!

Another nice one Chris.

Looks very nice Chris. Well done. It looks like 1/5 is the new 1/3!
Brian.

It is if you have to climb the hill...

you seem to build 5 in the time it takes me one chris
what’s your secret ?

Practice, and the good 'ol microwave bed: 8 hours sleep in 20 minutes

chris williams wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 17:17 Practice, and the good 'ol microwave bed: 8 hours sleep in 20 minutes

Also, he was trained in the Black Arts at Hogwarts.....



BC

hahaha
that i can believe

The 1/5 scale, Mike Trew “Skylark 4” which I started last year is now complete. I managed to fly the maiden flight this morning with no real problems at all. I have enclosed a couple of photos as “proof of flight”. A more detailed description is contained at the end of my “build Thread” elsewhere in the Forum.
Brian.

What sort of a blow? Was it

G

Hi Geoff. First launch was in a 6mph breeze. The last flight was in a 14/15 mph (Very Cold) wind.
Brian

Impressive that it flies in a 6mph breeze, what is the wing loading Brian - I'm guessing around 15/16ozs sq. ft?

I'm impressed ,once again Brian.

G

Stephen, it weighs in at 7lb 5oz which gives a loading of 16.6 lb/Ft2. At 5/6mph it was marginal and was flying at slope height. As the wind increased slightly it was climbing quite easily. By the time I ended my third flight the wind was up to 14/15mph and height was not a problem and I could race the model around in a most undignified manner. All the usual aerobatics were easily achieved.
Brian.

Well done you! All that hard work comes to fruition.

And there's no such thing as too many Slingsbys.

Hope to see it on a hill someday.

Rog

it weighs in at 7lb 5oz which gives a loading of 16.6 lb/Ft2 Blimey Brian, I'm amazed she flew at all

B****r I missed that one...

BC

Sorry Chris, 16.6 oz/ft2 - happy now?
Brian.

16.6lb/ft² would have been more fun (to watch, anyway).

Well done Brian, nice job. Like Rog said, can't have too many Skylarks.

Hmmm, not sure, Brian...Ft/2? Does that mean every second foot? Or, do you mean sq. ft.? (Isn't this fun )

So a = .5 of a ft/2? Or was that =???? Oh well ignorance is bliss as long as it flies.

OK!!!! It doesn't weigh a lot! Happy Now!!!!!!

Brian

Another super 5th scale pilot from Wilson, a perfect fit in the Flamingo... and before anybody starts on price, I don't drink. I don't smoke. I don't hang around with loose women. (Not any more)...I just buy pilots

Oooh you hang around with loose pilots!

The Newent Massiv in their natural habitat......

MG19a Steinadler @1/4 scale...

Repeat model syndrome again: 1:3.5 Swallow

Currently finishing a Hangar 9 ASH31E ARF. It will have electric launch capability as well as Aerotow. It is powered by a 2kw Scorpion motor, battery to be 6 cell lipo 4000 Mah , and two separate 2 cell 3000mah flight systems. The motor is feed via a 100 amp ESC on a separate receiver, the motor battery and prop drive is removable for straight towing, it has a dummy ballasted nose cone for towing. It will be T3000 GPS fitted. Very impressed with the Hangar 9 quality!

A couple of months ago I was sorting out some old magazines and I came across a free plan for an F86 Sabre PSS model. I haven’t built anything like that in donkeys ages so I thought “the workbench is clear – why not”. I know it is not the usual sot of model to appear here but it is scale (ish) and it is a glider.
The construction and covering is basically complete and now for the fun painting bit!
Brian.

So Brian,

Will we be seeing you at the PSSA meetings on the Great Orme now?

Martin.

I wouldn't hold your breath on that one Martin!
Brian

That's a shame Brian.

If the maiden flight of my Sabre is successful there is a good chance the design will become the 2020 mass build for the PSSA.

Martin.

Preston Brower's 3rd scale Rhonsperber from our website's free plan is coming along nicely...

Motley built most of his 5th scale Flamingo whilst the missus was away...(She was only gone ten minutes!)

At this stage the Steinadler's AUW is 10lbs, ballasted to put the cg on the wing joiner...

chris williams wrote: ↑21 Apr 2019, 09:34 At this stage the Steinadler's AUW is 10lbs, ballasted to put the cg on the wing joiner...

Quick question: Do you reinforce the trailing edge rib connection at all?
Does it twist when its covered?

Oops thats two questions.
Thanks
Philip C

The rear of each rib is reinforced with an elongated triangle of 0.8mm ply. The 'D' section holds the wing rigid, so there is usually not distortion of the TE. (Also, I strap a ruddy great Ali straight edge to the TE when adding the top sheeting)

chris williams wrote: ↑23 Apr 2019, 00:43 The rear of each rib is reinforced with an elongated triangle of 0.8mm ply. The 'D' section holds the wing rigid, so there is usually not distortion of the TE. (Also, I strap a ruddy great Ali straight edge to the TE when adding the top sheeting)

Thanks for the info, great tip with the ALI straight edge.

Phillip C

Also worthy of note: I've used 1.5mm ply for the TE this time, as I had run out of spruce. It will be OK, but spruce has a noticeably greater lateral strength than ply...

Nice to see a rarely modelled glider being made

A couple of weeks ago I posted pics of a little F86 Sabre that I was building. I have had great fun painting it and all that remains is to fit the aileron servos and balance before the first flight.
The colour scheme used is that of a Canadair F86 Sabre Mk4 flown by 3 Squadron RAFG based at Geilenkirchen, Germany in 1954.
I am now thoroughly looking forward to thrashing it back and forward at low level along my local slope in a good breeze.
Brian.

Small fast aeroplane painted in camouflage colours, seem like a plan.....



BC

It's got a silver canopy Barry, that will be Ok, right?
Brian.

It will be welcome at a PSSA meeting. The scale police are not seen very often at those events!

Started a build on a RES Dart, not a patch on the Wampire above which looks fantastic.

Brilliant and tense like many maiden flights.

Motley's new 5th scale Flamingo tasted the air for the first time at CMFC today... (Complete with wing tip smoke!)

Beautiful! Congratulations Geoff.

Think of the poor tug pilot trying to concentrate with the noise on knees knocking.....

Well done Geoff.



BC

Just awesome Geoff, cant wait to see it in the 'flesh'.

Many thanks chaps for your kind words, it flies every bit as lovely as my 1·35 scale one does so really looking forward to flying her again, probably at Middle Wallop now with a bit of luck. I would also like to give special thanks to Chris for providing some plan details and build info etc,
Barry Atkinson at Sarik Hobbies for the canopy and as usual our Barry Cole for the decals, thanks guys much appreciated.

Geoff

Still loads to do but nice when you can assemble it and make it look like a glider. It's a WLM 1 - 1947 Swiss aerobatic glider. It's 1/4 scale and I'm building from the Vic Steel plan which has caused lots of problems - always frustrating but we will get there...

I like unusual models and this one really looks the part. Nicely executed, Lee

Nigel, the WLM is interesting. Here is a photo of the instruments if it helps and a pdf article about the glider with some scale detail

I had the article Vince but not the photo so as always - you come up trumps! Much appreciated. WLM cockpit is actually pretty complicated for a vintage glider - maybe as they were putting air force pilots in it they wanted it to look the part? I'll do something but it will probably be a little simplified - I like the challenge of trying to make things look detailed for a minimum effort.

Next up...1/4 scale Habicht. 40 years too late, I just discovered a way of pinning ply to board so that it remains flush. Having drilled out the ply, a small length of heatshrink tube is slid over the pin and compressed: seems to work a treat...

We look forward to those high speed, inverted passes across the slope...

BC

Maybe this time the camera jockey will get the shot...

Until you get it right, why waste pixels..???

Build faster..



BC

Interested to see where you are going with this Chris - will it be a lightweight version like the Minimoa? I have the 1/4 scale plans and it's on my 'to-do-in-the-future' list. Assume you will be changing the wing section as well?? Will there be a build log?

Given the sprightliness of the 5th scale Wolf, I'm sticking with my favourite section. What seems to work well at the moment is a heavy fuselage and lightweight wings! I'm hoping for a big improvement on the 30 odd years old plan!

The Habicht is coming along nicely...

More Habicht progress...please note that I had a special workshop tidy up so as not to cause Brian any distress

chris williams wrote: ↑15 Aug 2019, 12:27 More Habicht progress...please note that I had a special workshop tidy up so as not to cause Brian any distress

You are just trying to upset the poor man. Shame on you.....



BC

Confucious, he say.... the rate of a project's progress can be measured by the state of the workshop

I'm not watching! Its way too painful! Somebody please find me a dark room and a large glass of whiskey.
Brian.

Having a 3.5 scale and a 5th scale Petrel in the fleet, we felt that something was missing... So I've scaled the plan to 1/4 and Motley's giving it a go.

Now there is another man with too much time on his hands.



BC

Ah, time waits for no man Barry (and it's running out)

Geoff

The benefits of an untidy workbench: 1 OAP-friendly 1/4 scale Habicht

It will never fly with all those holes in the wings.....



BC

....all designed by Jilles

Had a days flying in a 28 a lot of years ago as P2 - the take-off and landing runs were like being in a biscuit tin as a consequence of its all metal construction - nice to fly though.

Nice.

Terry Holland has decided to hang up his scalpel and retire from building models.

Over the years Terry has built many unusual models and not being a flyer himself, has sold them on to the community. His last model is a build from my plan, but reduced in scale, of the Karakan, which he has donated to the Gliding Heritage Centre at Lasham as a display model. I have enjoyed helping Terry over the years with information for his models and I will be sad to see his departure and wish him all the best for the future.

Thanks Terry for being a good friend

Lovely looking model.

It's a shame not to see it flying...

BC

Sorry to hear that Terry won't be building any more of his fine models. He usually brought them to MW for test flying, so here's a sample of his work from over the years...

Dale Nichols from Oz, reports a successful maiden flight for his Spatz...

Hello Chris,

you beat me to the posting of pictures from the successful maiden on the weekend at our annual Cobram Aerotow on the Melbourne Cup Weekend.

The Spatz flew beautifully straight off the tow with just minor trim. Handling is very benign and the model sits just right in the air.
Built as per the plan in all respects, a relatively easy build and great flying performance.
The finish is Koverall on the fuselage with two pack creme finish, wings are Oracover fabric, blue trim is from a rattle can.

thanks for the great design, it won't be my last from your plans.

Dale

The maiden flight of the 1/5 scale Dart 17 has happened rather sooner than I had expected. This morning dawned bright and sunny with the promise of a breeze from the East. I was up on my favourite East facing slope by 9.30 and the wind was 6mph to max 9mph straight on the slope.
The Dart flew straight out with just a touch of down trim. In total I had four short flights during which I increased the aileron differential to 70% and rudder/aileron mix to 30% . The stall brings with it a wing tip drop but it is very predictable and safe and the landings are very easy with the big brakes.
It will take a couple more trimming sessions before I have the model flying exactly as I want but it is not too far away.
I have attached three photos including two in the air. I apologise for the poor quality as they were taken with my phone while I was trying to fly the model.
Brian.

Nicely done Brian. What is the shade of Yellow? SNP??

Halfords Ford Signal Yellow, which is close to what I used on my 1:3.5 version. I couldn't find a suitable politically inspired colour scheme!
Brian.

Well done Brian. Looks lovely! Hope to see it on the slope sometime next year.

Nice one Brian - again.

Back to tidying the workshop now.......................?

There you go Brian, HQ does it again
Presumably the tailplane gives enough pitch authority, despite your earlier concerns.

RobbieB wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 10:03
Back to tidying the workshop now.......................?

Please note that I did not say that.....



BC

Peter, the tail appears to be ok. I will know more when I finish the trimming process.
Robbie and Barry, the workshop was given a deep clean, workbench resurfaced, tools rearranged and the rubbish bin emptied. The next project is already started and coming along nicely.
Brian

Barry_Cole wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 11:43

RobbieB wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 10:03
Back to tidying the workshop now.......................?

Please note that I did not say that.....



BC

I'll bet you were thinking it though.................

Well done John, looks good.



BC