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1/6 scale T21 from Jilles Smits

Posted: 27 Feb 2021, 09:03
by Cliff Evans
Message from Terry in France that has finally managed to Maiden the T21.

Hi Cliff, just a little word to say we finally experienced a break in the weather on Thursday and I managed 3 flights with the T21. Fantastic, just as I experienced the full size, slow and majestic, and the landings smooth and stable. Thanks for the cutting and help with the plan, here's the proof in flight, cheers Terry.

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Re: 1/6 scale T21 from Jilles Smits

Posted: 01 Mar 2021, 22:58
by Cliff Evans
Just received the video of the maiden flight from Terry. Looks good to me.


Re: 1/6 scale T21 from Jilles Smits

Posted: 02 Mar 2021, 00:17
by chris williams
Confused of Dorset here...1/6th scale?

Re: 1/6 scale T21 from Jilles Smits

Posted: 02 Mar 2021, 01:08
by Jilles
If this is the 1:6 scale (2.74m wing span) of my design can you please let me know the flying weight. I can compare this to the computer model weight
The computer model does not calculate glue, fabric and paint and any variation in local used material density compared to computer material

Cheers

jilles

Re: 1/6 scale T21 from Jilles Smits

Posted: 02 Mar 2021, 08:25
by Cliff Evans
chris williams wrote: 02 Mar 2021, 00:17 Confused of Dorset here...1/6th scale?
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Re: 1/6 scale T21 from Jilles Smits

Posted: 02 Mar 2021, 09:16
by Barry_Cole
He's easily confused, poor lad. It's all the cyno fumes.

:? :? :? :?

BC

Re: 1/6 scale T21 from Jilles Smits

Posted: 02 Mar 2021, 10:21
by chris williams
Still Confused of Dorset... at 1/6th scale, the T21 should have a span of less than 3 meters. Here are some pics for comparison: mine is 3.5 scale, the one being launched is, I believe, 1/5th scale. Either way, congratulations on a very nice model!

Re: 1/6 scale T21 from Jilles Smits

Posted: 02 Mar 2021, 12:23
by Cliff Evans
chris williams wrote: 02 Mar 2021, 10:21 Still Confused of Dorset... at 1/6th scale, the T21 should have a span of less than 3 meters. Here are some pics for comparison: mine is 3.5 scale, the one being launched is, I believe, 1/5th scale. Either way, congratulations on a very nice model!

Span of Jilles 1/6 scale is 2.74Mtr I think that may just be under the 3Mtrs you quote!

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Re: 1/6 scale T21 from Jilles Smits

Posted: 02 Mar 2021, 12:32
by VinceC
Don't worry Chris, I know of a good Care Home

Re: 1/6 scale T21 from Jilles Smits

Posted: 02 Mar 2021, 16:42
by Cliff Evans
Jilles wrote: 02 Mar 2021, 01:08 If this is the 1:6 scale (2.74m wing span) of my design can you please let me know the flying weight. I can compare this to the computer model weight
The computer model does not calculate glue, fabric and paint and any variation in local used material density compared to computer material

Cheers

jilles
Reply to your questions Jilles.
Hi Cliff, the final weight was 7.8 kg, mostly batteries, lead in the nose and the pilots. The c.g and servo throws were spot, no in flight correction needed, possibly the least eventful maiden flight ever!

Re: 1/6 scale T21 from Jilles Smits

Posted: 03 Mar 2021, 05:26
by Andrew Ray
Ok, I'm confused too, 7.8kg sounds awfully heavy for a model with a wingspan of 108".

Lovely model and a handy size at 1/6 scale, just like models used to be when I was a kid...but the one in the video is larger than that.

Re: 1/6 scale T21 from Jilles Smits

Posted: 03 Mar 2021, 09:40
by Cliff Evans
Conundrum solved!

I must apologise to all! This is not the Jilles model! It is Chris's 1/4 scale. I have two Terry's in France that have purchased T21's This Terry, after checking my records purchased the Chris Williams 1/4 scale T21. Another Terry is apparently still building the Jilles T21. So this one in the pictures here is the 1/4 scale!

Now then, Vince, this care home you were talking about!

Re: 1/6 scale T21 from Jilles Smits

Posted: 03 Mar 2021, 09:46
by VinceC
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
The Care Home is on St Helena, great slopes there

The boat leaves tomorrow

Re: 1/6 scale T21 from Jilles Smits

Posted: 03 Mar 2021, 09:51
by RobbieB
Never go in a care home with a good slope..........you'll go down hill pretty quickly there.

Re: 1/6 scale T21 from Jilles Smits

Posted: 03 Mar 2021, 10:18
by VinceC
Just maddened my 1:6 scale Olympia

Re: 1/6 scale T21 from Jilles Smits

Posted: 03 Mar 2021, 10:20
by RobbieB
I'd be pretty 'mad' if I'd just been thrown off a slope Vince.

Re: 1/6 scale T21 from Jilles Smits

Posted: 03 Mar 2021, 13:55
by VinceC
You gotta see my muscles

Re: 1/6 scale T21 from Jilles Smits

Posted: 01 Apr 2021, 10:09
by mchandrayan
I recently picked up a 1/6 kit and was planning to build it along my other ongoing builds. I was banking on some one in US to do the metal work for me (he had previously done excellent work for some other models). However due to personal circumstances he is unable to take up any work.
I have no ability and resource for doing the metal work involved with the 1/6 T21. I suppose these are not very complicated but I can't.

is there any one who may be willing to do this for a set of metals parts?

Re: 1/6 scale T21 from Jilles Smits

Posted: 13 Apr 2021, 12:54
by mchandrayan
An urgent shout out for help. Would anyone know who may be able to help me out with the metal work please?
Have also dropped a message to Jilles Smits but not sure if he has seen it yet.

Re: 1/6 scale T21 from Jilles Smits

Posted: 15 Apr 2021, 00:21
by Jilles
I did reply on the personal message. the reply was that you might not realize that I live in Australia. The metal parts are not difficult to make
Material can be bought at local hobby and/or hardware shops, a little jewelers saw and some time will give you the parts required
it is not difficult

Re: 1/6 scale T21 from Jilles Smits

Posted: 21 Apr 2021, 09:55
by mchandrayan
Hello Jilles
Thanks for the response. Unfortunately have not received any message in response to the PM . That was the reason for for the SOS .
I understand you are in Australia. I am in India and was looking for some one who could do the CAD and cut the material.
Thanks for your response.
Guess the lesson is to research the plan and parts availability prior to picking up the kit
Best regards